tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post5374647877984131620..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: Some reflections on being marriedDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-91997850862290946442008-11-01T07:41:00.000-07:002008-11-01T07:41:00.000-07:00IT and BP, belated Congratulations to you both!On ...IT and BP, belated Congratulations to you both!<BR/><BR/>On such an occasion as this joyful one, I'll eschew my burning desire to judge the duplicity of ALX2000's<BR/>poorly placed and disingenuous screed. I wish he (?) had had the good judgment to do the same.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping be my blog, my daughter and brand new daughter <B>in law</B> really appreciate the show of support from friends and strangers alike!The Cunning Runthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480635074548499383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-72211456036073208492008-10-29T09:07:00.000-07:002008-10-29T09:07:00.000-07:00Thank you, C. HOpe you will join us in happy matr...Thank you, C. HOpe you will join us in happy matrimony some day!<BR/><BR/>ITAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-33886088444755435702008-10-29T06:28:00.000-07:002008-10-29T06:28:00.000-07:00Late to the party, but... wishing you both every b...Late to the party, but... wishing you both every blessing and grace.<BR/><BR/>Love, C.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-87462255832281177542008-10-27T16:19:00.000-07:002008-10-27T16:19:00.000-07:00Eeeee weddings! Congratuations!*becomes squee-fill...Eeeee weddings! Congratuations!<BR/><BR/>*becomes squee-filled*Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00469586369675197872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-2183554509685026762008-10-22T19:56:00.000-07:002008-10-22T19:56:00.000-07:00God Bless You and God Bless your union. No on 8! L...God Bless You and God Bless your union. No on 8! Let California Ring!<BR/><BR/>I'd like a picture too if you can: aghaveagh at the gmail dot com.Aghaveaghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966987919128347617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-26276181775332608152008-10-22T12:42:00.000-07:002008-10-22T12:42:00.000-07:00Wishing you and yours true happiness***IF*** you m...<I>Wishing you and yours true happiness</I><BR/><BR/>***IF*** you mean this, alx2000, then you will passionately <B>oppose Prop 8</B>.<BR/><BR/>It's really that simple. <BR/><BR/>You can't DICTATE our friend IT and her <I>wife's</I> happiness. They have found <B>happiness in being married</B>. How they found that happiness isn't at issue: ONLY, whether you will try to <I>deny</I> them them their happiness, *OR* follow the only implication of your "wish".<BR/><BR/>Which is it?<BR/><BR/>You have to choose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-45899463728440114262008-10-22T10:33:00.000-07:002008-10-22T10:33:00.000-07:00Wonderful, IT!!!! polysloguy at the usual place ...Wonderful, IT!!!! polysloguy at the usual place that sounds like a cowboy call and starts with ya. :)Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622358803103789307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-38128337373715265442008-10-22T09:14:00.000-07:002008-10-22T09:14:00.000-07:00Yes James, it is.I'll send you a higher res versio...Yes James, it is.<BR/><BR/>I'll send you a higher res version if you will give me your email.<BR/><BR/>ITAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-20521043527673992932008-10-22T09:06:00.000-07:002008-10-22T09:06:00.000-07:00IT, it that a real photo of you and BP? If it is, ...IT, it that a real photo of you and BP? If it is, I want to print it and frame it for my desk.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622358803103789307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-19870725641901160342008-10-22T08:06:00.000-07:002008-10-22T08:06:00.000-07:00I gotta go with IT's comment above, alx2000, and I...I gotta go with IT's comment above, alx2000, and I <I>am</I> a regular, church-going Christian.<BR/><BR/>The precise extent to which <I>your</I> personal, religious feelings on this issue should extend is to <I>yourself.</I> Don't support gay marriage ? Then don't marry someone of the same sex as yourself. Your church not support it ? Then it is perfectly within its rights to not offer a church wedding ceremony to same-sex couples. Simple. Everything else is just a tortured, convoluted excuse for bigotry.<BR/><BR/>This is a classic example of the old saying about "your freedom to swing your fists wildly about in the air <B>ends</B> at my nose."Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-59776942224471655572008-10-22T07:31:00.000-07:002008-10-22T07:31:00.000-07:00alx2000,There is no justification to deny CIVIL ga...alx2000,<BR/><BR/>There is no justification to deny CIVIL gay marriage rights except hatred and bigotry. You do not wish the best to me and mine if you wish to deny us this precious precious gift.<BR/><BR/>And no, the principles of Christianity do NOT apply to me. First of all, they are not relevant in the secular sphere: this is a secular, not religious issue.<BR/><BR/>Second, as I am the local atheist, your attempt to use religious reasons to deny me civil rights are particularly vile. <BR/><BR/>alx2000, I am sure you think you are not driven by hatred. but to me, the result is the same.<BR/><BR/>You support prop-hate. QED.<BR/><BR/>Who voted on YOUR marriage?<BR/><BR/>ITIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-16596912833695116662008-10-21T23:28:00.000-07:002008-10-21T23:28:00.000-07:00Can someone explain to me why the No on 8 TV ads a...Can someone explain to me why the No on 8 TV ads are so blah? There are no actual people to humanize the issue, just print. I am very afraid that the proposition will pass if the ads don't get any more effective...<BR/>PatrickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-63563026991575471482008-10-21T22:50:00.000-07:002008-10-21T22:50:00.000-07:00I have no feelings of hatred toward you or any of ...I have no feelings of hatred toward you or any of your supporters. This is what I believe...<BR/><BR/>"I wish to say that our opposition to attempts to legalize same-sex marriage should never be interpreted as justification for hatred, intolerance, or abuse of those who profess homosexual tendencies, either individually or as a group.... Our hearts reach out to those who refer to themselves as gays and lesbians. We love and honor them as sons and daughters of God." <BR/>(Gordon B. Hinckley, former President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) <BR/><BR/><A HREF="yes-on-prop8.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">my blog</A><BR/><BR/>Do the principles of Christianity not also apply to you? You can oppose us without hating us.<BR/><BR/>Wishing you and yours true happiness.ALX2000https://www.blogger.com/profile/17449187140785122978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-13172688147272054592008-10-21T21:43:00.000-07:002008-10-21T21:43:00.000-07:00Thank you all, and Terry especially for the blessi...Thank you all, and Terry especially for the blessing! I think it will be in our wedding book... <BR/><BR/>We're still a bit aglow, and thus even more frightened by the proProp-H8 ads inundating the radio and TV now. THis is so precious, it is terrifying that we might lose it.<BR/><BR/>ITAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-47348747730080617492008-10-21T18:23:00.000-07:002008-10-21T18:23:00.000-07:00Congratulations, IT & Beloved; wonderful news ...Congratulations, IT & Beloved; wonderful news to come back to!johniebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11635403219973766022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-80673849851129863602008-10-21T16:15:00.000-07:002008-10-21T16:15:00.000-07:00THAT is definitely good news! Thank you, Dr. Prim...THAT is definitely good news! Thank you, Dr. Primrose.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-81410848449536114742008-10-21T16:12:00.000-07:002008-10-21T16:12:00.000-07:00Another important Episcopal Church case out of the...Another important Episcopal Church case out of the California Court of Appeal today.<BR/><BR/>Today, the California Court of Appeal held in favor of the diocese (San Diego) in the dispute concerning St. John's, Falbrook in a case titled <A HREF="http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/D051120.PDF" REL="nofollow">New v. Kroeger</A>.<BR/> <BR/>The issue in this lawsuit was who were the lawful members of the vestry. The Court held that the vestry members who left the Episcopal Church to become members of the Anglican Church of Uganda had no authority to amend the parish’s articles of incorporation and bylaws to become affiliated with Uganda. After they had left the Episcopal Church, they were not lawful vestry members and their actions were void. The bishop thus properly determined that remaining Episcopal members were the true members, the members who had left were no longer qualified to serve as vestry members, and that a new vestry should be elected. The Court of Appeal reversed the trial judgment, which had been in favor of the dissidents and ordered the trial court to enter judgment in favor of the diocese.<BR/><BR/>Apparently, the parties stipulated that this lawsuit concerned only which people constituted the lawful vestry and did not concern the parish property, which is the subject of another lawsuit. The outcome of "vestry" lawsuit, however, probably determines the outcome of the "property" lawsuit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-1954018363072621592008-10-21T10:41:00.000-07:002008-10-21T10:41:00.000-07:00Congratulations!Sounds like it was a wonderful day...Congratulations!<BR/><BR/>Sounds like it was a wonderful day!<BR/><BR/>O God, send your blessing upon these your servants, that they may so love, honor, and cherish each other in faithfulness and patience, in wisdom and true godliness, that their home may be a haven of blessing and peace; through Jesus Christ our Lord, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and forever. Amen.<BR/><BR/>JakeTerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02618313375497403185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-27909641363544772232008-10-21T08:18:00.000-07:002008-10-21T08:18:00.000-07:00A good editorial in today's Los Angeles Times, res...A good editorial in today's Los Angeles Times, responding to the lies being circulated about Proposition 8, which would revoke the right of marriage for same-sex couples in California -- <A HREF="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-prop8-21-2008oct21,0,7164183.story" REL="nofollow">A lesson about Prop. 8: Despite what proponents say, its defeat would not change what California's schools teach.</A> It says:<BR/><BR/>***<BR/><BR/>Californians tend to be an open-minded crowd that wouldn't take kindly to a campaign attacking homosexuality or attempting to strip away people's rights. So the well-financed and savvy backers of Proposition 8 have produced waves of advertising aimed instead at making voters believe that supporters of same-sex marriage are intent on stripping away everyone else's rights, and that this ballot measure is the only way for traditionally religious people to retain them.<BR/><BR/>With the defeat of this proposed ban on gay marriage, they say, schools would begin indoctrinating children as young as kindergartners to be wholehearted supporters of such marriages. The ads point to the case of a Massachusetts teacher reading the picture book "King and King," about a gay royal wedding. <BR/><BR/>This is emotional stuff for many parents. But the dry reality of California education law tells a different story. Under SB 71, which passed in 2003, the Legislature set out the framework for comprehensive sex education, which includes the brief reference to marriage from which these dire Proposition 8 warnings are drawn: "Instruction and materials shall teach respect for marriage and committed relationships." Schools aren't required to teach comprehensive sex education, but if they do, this is one of many rules they must follow. The law also gives schools the option of discussing gender, sexual orientation and family life, though that's not required as part of the more comprehensive program. <BR/><BR/>Most important, the law contains paragraph after paragraph guaranteeing parents the right to review the material being taught and to have their children excused from all or any part of it.<BR/><BR/>It would be naive to say that no California teacher will ever mention homosexuality, or that SB 71 prevents all teachers, elementary or otherwise, from reading "King and King" or similar books to their students, or telling them about the history -- and existence -- of gay marriage. Schools across the nation have done such things for years, with or without legal recognition of gay marriage. <BR/><BR/>Proposition 8 would change none of that. The measure would do one thing: use the state Constitution as the device to take away an existing, fundamental right from a particular group of people, so that a loving adult in that group could not marry the person of his or her choice. Teachers will choose books to read and will impart information about the world to their students. That's true now; it was true before the California Supreme Court ruling in May that recognized the right to same-sex marriage; and it will be true whether Proposition 8 passes or, as it deserves to do, fails. <BR/><BR/>***<BR/><BR/>I wish this kind of level-headed reasoning influenced large parts of the electorate. But I fear it does not ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-71650930802651013192008-10-21T07:35:00.000-07:002008-10-21T07:35:00.000-07:00IT - thank you for sharing more about this wonder...IT - thank you for sharing more about this wonderful part of your life. Blessings on both of you, of every kind.<BR/><BR/>I think the Presidential politics will work in your favor, liberals will be getting out to vote because they have something to be excited about - Barack Obama. I hope that is true this year.Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09748809418423591030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-68713785982659929322008-10-21T01:05:00.000-07:002008-10-21T01:05:00.000-07:00Best wishes to ya'll!Best wishes to ya'll!Марко Фризияhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08329850161076633932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-75709642698003935722008-10-20T19:48:00.000-07:002008-10-20T19:48:00.000-07:00Congratulations!NancyPCongratulations!<BR/><BR/>NancyPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-89014335606220366212008-10-20T19:24:00.000-07:002008-10-20T19:24:00.000-07:00I'll fail if I try to express how much you two mea...I'll fail if I try to express how much you two mean out here, so, let "mazel tov" suffice. I'll try to remember you the next time I speak in convention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-31022970788799205282008-10-20T17:19:00.000-07:002008-10-20T17:19:00.000-07:00It's about time you checked in, IT. Chronis pola (...It's about time you checked in, IT. Chronis pola (Many years) to both of you. I'm actually jealous.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622358803103789307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-19008357011956063472008-10-20T14:48:00.000-07:002008-10-20T14:48:00.000-07:00Congratulations, best wishes, and much love to you...Congratulations, best wishes, and much love to you and your beloved spouse, IT. May you be blessed with many more happy years together.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.com