tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post4052544070055033101..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: Roman Catholics in the closet?Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-45524068011280904802012-10-17T19:53:43.035-07:002012-10-17T19:53:43.035-07:00JCF, I saw that. The decision by the disciplinary...JCF, I saw that. The decision by the disciplinary board was inevitable once +Lawrence threw down the gauntlet. June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-33975459850016662962012-10-17T19:48:12.300-07:002012-10-17T19:48:12.300-07:00Perhaps you were right, Mimi! [xLawrence was ruled...Perhaps you were right, Mimi! [xLawrence was ruled to have abandoned-communion today]JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-2007970363012561662012-10-13T16:09:28.016-07:002012-10-13T16:09:28.016-07:00I wonder if these judgments will have an effect on...I wonder if these judgments will have an effect on the secret decision already made by +Mark Lawrence in the Diocese of South Carolina. Of course, we've been told over and over that SC is unique amongst the dioceses.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-3313401371468890142012-10-12T11:21:53.406-07:002012-10-12T11:21:53.406-07:00Bulletin from L.A. Diocese re court's ordering...Bulletin from L.A. Diocese re court's ordering two more schismatic parish properties returned:<br /><br />Judgments grant Long Beach, North Hollywood properties to Diocese <br /><br />[The Episcopal News, Los Angeles] -- Final Judgments in favor of the Diocese of Los Angeles and the Episcopal Church in cases regarding Long Beach and North Hollywood property disputes have been entered by the Orange County Superior Court.<br /><br />"The Judgments conclude the trial court portion of the cases and declare that the Diocese holds the properties in trust for the current and future mission of the Episcopal Church," said diocesan attorney John R. Shiner.<br /><br />"It is ordered, adjudged and decreed that final judgment is entered in favor of Plaintiffs [including] the Episcopal Church in the Diocese of Los Angeles... and Plaintiff-In-Intervention The Episcopal Church and against defendants," each Judgment reads. Links to the cases are here: <br /><br />Judgment: St. David's, North Hollywood <br /><br />Judgment: All Saints', Long Beach <br /><br />"We will move forward with an orderly transition," said the Rt. Rev. J. Jon Bruno, Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Los Angeles, who was present in the courtroom Aug. 24 for the recent proceedings. "Being people of compassion and understanding, we have been in touch with the attorneys for both congregations, and we will make every effort to respect the dignity of all involved."<br /><br />The Court will take up another case, involving the congregation of St. James', Newport Beach, on Oct. 24.<br /><br />The litigation began eight years ago when a majority of members of All Saints' Church in Long Beach, St. David's Church in North Hollywood, and St. James' Church in Newport Beach voted to disaffiliate from the Episcopal Church and the Diocese of Los Angeles. A Court returned a fourth property -- St. Luke's of the Mountains Church in La Crescenta -- to the Diocese in 2009.dr.primrosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-57958185802932007332012-10-11T06:00:57.137-07:002012-10-11T06:00:57.137-07:00The pronouncements of the Vatican and other hierar...The pronouncements of the Vatican and other hierarchy will affect the parishioners when the very "conservative" priests now being trained take over the individual churches and try to enforce their prejudices. Deny the eucharist often enough and they give Episcopalians a grand opportunity for recruitment. We can hope. Our parish already has several ex-RCs.PseudoPiskiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12070541512355253553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-39457523082181023472012-10-10T21:22:32.899-07:002012-10-10T21:22:32.899-07:00I just read that Archbishop Nienstedt has spent $6...I just read that Archbishop Nienstedt has spent $650,000 of Roman Catholic Church funds helping to fight for the anti-marriage equality amendment!<br /><br />Doug SpurlinDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12354889238109710992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-89661828975978052912012-10-10T16:22:48.476-07:002012-10-10T16:22:48.476-07:00The bishops have thrown down the gauntlet, but, as...The bishops have thrown down the gauntlet, but, as JCF says, most Roman Catholics will ignore the glove and do as they please, despite what the bishops say. Eventually a prominent RC who favors gay marriage will be refused communion, and then another and another, and perhaps there will be a tipping point, or perhaps not.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-50511065683722564692012-10-10T13:15:24.818-07:002012-10-10T13:15:24.818-07:00I suspect many RCs are inured to listening to thei...I suspect many RCs are inured to listening to their bishops...<br /><br />...but they DON'T make the connection to what they put in the collection plate. [That it goes to the bishop's agenda whether they want it to or not]JCFnoreply@blogger.com