tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post8538921534404674895..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: From the Crowd to the Cross: Indiana, California, and Palm SundayDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-85367941756682016752015-04-05T21:52:28.931-07:002015-04-05T21:52:28.931-07:00Happy Easter to everybody at FoJ!
"He is Ris...Happy Easter to everybody at FoJ!<br /><br />"He is Risen Indeed"JCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-474933370783247572015-04-01T11:36:56.128-07:002015-04-01T11:36:56.128-07:00People with some knowledge of the law and a mental...People with some knowledge of the law and a mental illness can really keep lawyers busy. Sounds like he knows enough to follow the process to get an issue on the ballot. Of course, even if it was passed it would be unconstitutional under the federal constitution. It would certainly get California's constitution to stand out in a crowd. Kevin Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192330313518885427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-53784155374512624252015-04-01T08:03:05.241-07:002015-04-01T08:03:05.241-07:00I agree with IT that the purpose of this initiativ...I agree with IT that the purpose of this initiative is probably not to highlight perceived flaws in the California initiative process.<br /><br />That being said, it's difficult to determine what this guy's motivation is. From what I've read, he's pretty much a cipher.<br /><br />His state bar profile has an address for his "law office" but it's apparently just a box at a strip-mall "postal store." There's no fax or email listed and calls to the listed phone number go immediately to voice mail and phone messages are not returned. There's a college and law school listed.<br /><br />People have Googled him name with very little results. He doesn't appear to be listed counsel in any court cases.<br /><br />About 10 years ago, he sponsored another initiative to require the state to give Bibles to all students.<br /><br />So what he does as a lawyer or any other part of his life appears to be mostly unknown.dr.primrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045500427671158694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-46123549667889066742015-04-01T07:36:05.120-07:002015-04-01T07:36:05.120-07:00Actually, I don't think there is any intent to...Actually, I don't think there is any intent to highlight the process here. This guy has the intent to shock, sure, but I think his motive is venting at how much he hates gays. It's yet another useful reminder that even though we are in California, we aren't necessarily safe or welcomed. IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-89457119440742396172015-03-30T12:35:19.040-07:002015-03-30T12:35:19.040-07:00I don't think the intent of the proponent is t...I don't think the intent of the proponent is to actually secure such a law. The language used is intended to shock, in part to show that the process for amendments to the Constitution should be more rigorous. That being said, yes, murders and lynching were pretty common throughout the US for quite a while. Kevin Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192330313518885427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-21556844507516396632015-03-29T14:09:24.881-07:002015-03-29T14:09:24.881-07:00The California initiative in fact is a "kill ...The California initiative in fact is a "kill the gays" proposal.<br /><br />The initiative reads: “Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method.”<br /><br />The initiative proposes that any individual who distribute “sodomistic” propaganda “shall be fined $1 million per occurrence, and/or imprisoned up to 10 years, and/or expelled from the boundaries of the state of California for up to life.”dr.primrosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045500427671158694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-17749724082177254142015-03-27T20:17:20.452-07:002015-03-27T20:17:20.452-07:00Lynchings were still happening in California in th...Lynchings were still happening in California in the 1930s, it's not THAT unthinkable.*<br /><br />Really love how Indy's "Don't Serve The Gays" law is coming back to bite 'em in the @ss.<br /><br />* I don't mean "like a lynching" murders, I mean actual IN PUBLIC LYNCHINGS. With no one prosecuted. [I was going top provide you the citation but my guilty "pleasure" (?!) "Executed Today" is currently down.]JCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-45473568093203763612015-03-27T12:06:50.896-07:002015-03-27T12:06:50.896-07:00That is what I thought. I did not think it was in...That is what I thought. I did not think it was intended as an actual "Kill the Gays" bill. Kevin Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192330313518885427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-3729756943706462022015-03-27T10:59:11.351-07:002015-03-27T10:59:11.351-07:00Not limited to amendments, but also statutes. The...Not limited to amendments, but also statutes. The Initiative process was put in place originally as a progressive move to allow the people some access to a government dominated by oligarchs. Unfortunately, it has become a very low bar (just $200 to file an initiative!). <br /><br />It can't get on the ballot without signatures, the number of which is detemrmined by the turnout of the previous election. In this case that's not going to happen, but ...<br /><br />BTW Thanks to the advent of professional signature gatherers, this is no longer people's process, but something easily controlled by those with deep pockets.<br />IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-57780150168200752142015-03-27T07:29:58.948-07:002015-03-27T07:29:58.948-07:00I had heard about the initiative. Isn't this ...I had heard about the initiative. Isn't this some sort of mockery of the system for amending the California Constitution? Kevin Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192330313518885427noreply@blogger.com