tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post5377436992583262672..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: Gender and sexuality - PB reflectsDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-41555334676669456812009-03-04T15:38:00.000-08:002009-03-04T15:38:00.000-08:00And this woman is educated and in her late fifties...And this woman is educated and in her late fifties and this is news?<BR/> Wow.....Fred Preusshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06438368833909384043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-31858778719574366792009-02-25T21:21:00.000-08:002009-02-25T21:21:00.000-08:00Maybe we can hope that Episcopal worship is back i...Maybe we can hope that <I>Episcopal</I> worship is back in these parish sanctuaries by Easter? ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-2694097956663269952009-02-25T17:26:00.000-08:002009-02-25T17:26:00.000-08:00Thanks Dr. Primrose.Thanks Dr. Primrose.Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-35373122286084491452009-02-25T16:44:00.000-08:002009-02-25T16:44:00.000-08:00OT. Today, the California Supreme Court denied re...OT. Today, the California Supreme Court denied rehearing in the Episcopal Church Cases (concerning the three parishes in the Diocese of Los Angeles that tried to leave TEC and take their property with them) and sent the case back to the trial court. You can see what the court did <A HREF="http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=484283&doc_no=S155094" REL="nofollow">here</A> (scroll down to the bottom of the screen).<BR/><BR/>The case isn't over yet. But the writing is on the wall in BIG CAPITIAL LETTERS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-48535783493251766812009-02-25T07:27:00.000-08:002009-02-25T07:27:00.000-08:00You'd be surprised....ITYou'd be surprised....<BR/><BR/>ITAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-50381568938397363332009-02-24T23:10:00.000-08:002009-02-24T23:10:00.000-08:00Le progrès social doît bien servir à quelquechôse....Le progrès social doît bien servir à quelquechôse...Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-29622172963850619442009-02-24T23:09:00.000-08:002009-02-24T23:09:00.000-08:00Ann, I do think there are still people who t h i n...Ann, <BR/><BR/>I do think there are still people who t h i n k so, but that they understand that they would make fools of themselves if they said it aloud ;=)Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-67674915417951435092009-02-24T21:24:00.000-08:002009-02-24T21:24:00.000-08:00Actually, JCF, the big thing at that convention wa...Actually, JCF, the <I><B>big</B></I> thing at that convention was prayers for the dead which were introduced by the 1928 book. That book was the most radical change from all that came before it in the history of the church since 1661.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the rest of your post, whole heartedly.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622358803103789307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-83267773471934737622009-02-24T21:04:00.000-08:002009-02-24T21:04:00.000-08:00I have my grandmother's BCP (Custodian's date, 190...I have my grandmother's BCP (Custodian's date, 1907), and the "Obey him and serve him" in the wife's vow is still there.<BR/><BR/>Can you imagine the GC before the adoption of the '28 BCP? I'm sure that some among the (male-only, IIRC) Deputies---to say nothing of male-only HofB!---must have cried that the removal of "Obey and Serve" would be the <B>End of Civilization as we know it!</B> :-0<BR/><BR/>Y'know, I have this feeling: when we look back in 50 years (I HOPE I'm still here!), and SSM is no-biggie in Anglicanism, we'll see that perhaps the MOST important change-bringer, was ++KJS (yes, <I>despite</I> B033). Just by <I>being</I> a Primate-who-is-a-STRONG-<B>woman</B>, she is BLOWING purple-shirted minds! :-DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-9370686180695595182009-02-24T19:35:00.000-08:002009-02-24T19:35:00.000-08:00oh - those people -- right!!oh - those people -- right!!Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-83677796603982580502009-02-24T19:17:00.000-08:002009-02-24T19:17:00.000-08:00I know. Present company excluded, as always ;-)I ...I know. Present company excluded, as always ;-)<BR/><BR/>I was thinking of THOSE straight people!IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-71966390555368041482009-02-24T18:13:00.000-08:002009-02-24T18:13:00.000-08:00Not everyone ITNot everyone ITAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-11629041006993617782009-02-24T18:09:00.000-08:002009-02-24T18:09:00.000-08:00Straight people have a very hard time thinking tha...Straight people have a very hard time thinking that gay relationships don't necessarily work on a gender binary. "which one of you is the guy?" Yeah, it takes a while before they figure out that the answer is both and neither!IThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-26092335671003758992009-02-24T17:53:00.000-08:002009-02-24T17:53:00.000-08:00That primate's question goes to the heart of the w...That primate's question goes to the heart of the whole subject -- who stops being male and becomes female in gay relationships. <BR/><BR/>There is still the assumption that someone MUST be "submissive" in relationships based on what has traditionally been the biological female's sole role in marriage.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11622358803103789307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-5771943787080596892009-02-24T15:57:00.000-08:002009-02-24T15:57:00.000-08:00oops!oops!Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-7002195517655225992009-02-24T15:28:00.000-08:002009-02-24T15:28:00.000-08:00It seems a bit nervy to correct the presiding bish...It seems a bit nervy to correct the presiding bishop; but the last time marriage vows contained anything about obedience was in the 1892 BCP; vows in the 1928 do not use that language.<BR/><BR/>This is one "modern innovation" that cannot be blamed on the "new" prayer book. That understanding was corrected long before. :-)Jane Ellen+https://www.blogger.com/profile/07930706962327994732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-17980108714361609832009-02-24T12:41:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:41:00.000-08:00Göran - and??Göran - and??Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07287169546184325690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-22089559446929622542009-02-24T12:32:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:32:00.000-08:00I haven't heard the like over here since the early...I haven't heard the like over here since the early 1980ies...Göran Koch-Swahnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925549945659350649noreply@blogger.com