tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post4263922800423703673..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: On visions and mystical experienceDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-80492911441050245072014-04-19T17:06:25.303-07:002014-04-19T17:06:25.303-07:00Happy Easter to everybody @ FoJ: He is Risen Indee...Happy Easter to everybody @ FoJ: He is Risen Indeed, Alleluia!JCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-56652664754297234962014-04-12T12:54:37.553-07:002014-04-12T12:54:37.553-07:00I had a moment, very different but somewhat simila...I had a moment, very different but somewhat similar. I was looking at a creek bed on a spring day and it seemed for a moment that I was seeing through it into a perfect place that was not simply breathtakingly beautiful but transcendent. <br /><br />Also as a lawyer, I would disagree with the author's assessment of the evidence of God (or gods) in the experience she describes. This is not direct evidence but is, at a minimum, circumstantial evidence. <br /> Kevin Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192330313518885427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-58934965048190266472014-04-11T10:00:24.914-07:002014-04-11T10:00:24.914-07:00Very interesting.
I've said for some time t...Very interesting. <br /><br />I've said for some time that the best argument for theists within the Philosophy of Religion is the Argument From Religious Experience. The Ontological Argument, or the Cosmological Argument, etc. eventually get bogged down in faith claims...but..."this is my experience" statements...they are hard to dismiss.<br /><br />Based on Swineburne's principle of credulity, "it is reasonable to believe that the world is probably as we experience it to be. Unless we have some specific reason to question a religious experience, therefore, then we ought to accept that it is at least prima facie evidence for the existence of God."<br /><br />JakeJakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13579571802576738609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-31660976434426172822014-04-10T20:40:05.831-07:002014-04-10T20:40:05.831-07:00I get that Ehrenreich doesn't want to use the ...I get that Ehrenreich doesn't want to use the G-word: that's cool.<br /><br />...and I also get, from Eastern traditions, the apophatic "Neti, neti" ("Not that, Not that"): the Via Negativa (easier to say that something isn't Something, than that it IS).<br /><br />And yet, there's still a desire to domesticate the Unexplained ("mental phenomena, internal to ourselves")<br /><br />"There is no evidence for a God or gods, least of all caring ones, but our mystical experiences give us tantalizing glimpses of other forms of consciousness, which may be beings of some kind, ordinarily invisible to us and our instruments."<br /><br />Or maybe it IS just a hang-up over the G-word. O_oJCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14516376500318551838noreply@blogger.com