tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post3661106349547916575..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: A tale of two bishops: a snub, and a welcome.Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-43856003630556047512012-10-09T07:53:35.527-07:002012-10-09T07:53:35.527-07:00JCF, I'm glad TWO has finally caught up with u...JCF, I'm glad TWO has finally caught up with us. WE reported that here at FoJ in 2010.<br /><br />http://friends-of-jake.blogspot.com/2010/10/minnesota-bishops-and-dvds-against.htmlIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-9391970917333409452012-10-08T23:12:24.003-07:002012-10-08T23:12:24.003-07:00Etc...
Twin Cities Catholic Archbishop John Niens...Etc...<br /><br />Twin Cities Catholic Archbishop John Nienstedt told a <a href="http://www.truthwinsout.org/news/2012/10/30351/" rel="nofollow">mother with a gay son that her “eternal salvation” may depend</a> on whether or not she embraces the anti-gay teachings of the Catholic ChurchJCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-90411280763706836132012-10-08T05:18:34.117-07:002012-10-08T05:18:34.117-07:00And the irony is that it is those much demonized g...And the irony is that it is those much demonized gays and lesbians who are keeping the churches of all denominations open in San Francisco. But for them, the city would be as secular as Montreal with abandoned churches everywhere.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-1272512089430689232012-10-08T01:52:25.947-07:002012-10-08T01:52:25.947-07:00Actually I thought that the Coetibus was the resul...<i>Actually I thought that the Coetibus was the result of Anglicans asking for help after their church changed it's mind on what is sin.</i><br /><br />{groan}<br /><br />"We have always been at war with Eastasia!"JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-51287548098222360942012-10-07T18:52:42.817-07:002012-10-07T18:52:42.817-07:00Actually I thought that the Coetibus was the resul...Actually I thought that the Coetibus was the result of Anglicans asking for help after their church changed it's mind on what is sin. I still think the end of Andrus' letter has an insulting tone and if you're going to insult somebody, don't be surprised if they don't want you at their celebration. A polite paraphrase of "Welcome to the neighborhood, I'm going to tell everyone you're a bigot forever" just doesn't sound like you want to go to their party anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-1339312196500291492012-10-07T11:28:18.672-07:002012-10-07T11:28:18.672-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.rental mobil jakartahttp://griyamobilkita.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-9465253435143597642012-10-07T05:04:09.757-07:002012-10-07T05:04:09.757-07:00How can anyone "steal" what the Roman hi...How can anyone "steal" what the Roman hierarchy has proclaimed to be disposable trash?<br /><br />The Episcopal Church has been picking up their wretched refuse for decades. I go to a parish filled with Irish and Italians tossed out of Rome like yesterday's fish.Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-407251506360323532012-10-06T13:08:20.055-07:002012-10-06T13:08:20.055-07:00When someone has been told they are not welcome in...When someone has been told they are not welcome in one church, it is not sheep-stealing for another church to invite them in.<br /><br />I have welcomed a few ex-RCs into my parish recently. They had not been to their RC parish, except for Christmas and Easter, for years, and were barred from receiving communion because of remarriage. They will be received into the Anglican Church of Canada when the bishop visits the parish in January, and like BP, have found their home.Jim Prattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-59518162906707617022012-10-06T11:33:47.718-07:002012-10-06T11:33:47.718-07:00Chris and Brian, I see that you both willfully ign...Chris and Brian, I see that you both willfully ignore Coetibus Anglicanorum. That wasn't sheep stealing in your view? Or is it that it only counts if you are Anglican? Double standards -- the downfall of the orthodox.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-35722989116938970812012-10-06T11:20:20.291-07:002012-10-06T11:20:20.291-07:00That isn't home and the Episcopal bishop's...That isn't home and the Episcopal bishop's letter was a provocation and sheep stealing Brian Delaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370262318365249325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-19218813384816402032012-10-06T11:17:42.626-07:002012-10-06T11:17:42.626-07:00That isn't home and the Episcopal bishop's...That isn't home and the Episcopal bishop's letter was a provocation and sheep stealing Brian Delaneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02370262318365249325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-26706031188033477012012-10-06T04:35:17.562-07:002012-10-06T04:35:17.562-07:00I too was rather surprised at the invite, but am a...I too was rather surprised at the invite, but am also surprised the bishop didn't get a note not to come after his public letter a few days earlier. Telling Catholics to forget loyalty or to work it out, but join TEC instead while promising that you're going to continue telling everyone that the Catholic church is a bunch of bigots(although in a polite way) days before the celebration seems a good way to get yourself uninvited. Truth or not, turning a "welcome to the neighborhood" letter into an insult at the end is not a good way to make friends. It may not have even been the new Catholic bishop who made the decision, but someone farther down in the works. Too bad whoever it was didn't realize that Episcopalians love publicizing disagreements, though Bishop Andrus' first letter should have been a clue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-30721012411614850512012-10-05T22:55:10.897-07:002012-10-05T22:55:10.897-07:00I would say more Anglo-Saxon than Celtic (the Tham...I would say more Anglo-Saxon than Celtic (the Thames is in England not Wales). :-)<br /><br />I'm actually a bit surprised the Catholic Church sent an invite in the first place. SF has several prominent Catholic politicians (Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom [former mayor now Lieutenant Governor]) who haven't exactly toed the Catholic line on gays.Erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18037406583478493064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-91917357965157300342012-10-05T14:16:00.891-07:002012-10-05T14:16:00.891-07:00I understand the Archdiocese is no longer claiming...I understand the Archdiocese is no longer claiming Bishop Andrus was "late". Stay tuned for further (non-credible) SPIN.JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-63349431264096045122012-10-05T12:03:31.672-07:002012-10-05T12:03:31.672-07:00Well said. Amen!Well said. Amen!Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-65684649817211738562012-10-05T11:25:52.892-07:002012-10-05T11:25:52.892-07:00And while were on the subject of Cordileone - S.F....And while were on the subject of Cordileone - <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/10/san-francisco-archbishop-dui-reckless-driving.html" rel="nofollow">S.F. archbishop pleads guilty to reckless driving in DUI case</a>.<br /><br />"The Roman Catholic archbishop of San Francisco, arrested on suspicion of drunk driving in San Diego in August, has pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of misdemeanor reckless driving, court records indicate.<br /><br />"An attorney for Salvatore Joseph Cordileone entered the plea Monday in San Diego County Superior Court. Cordileone was sentenced to three years probation, a $1,120 fine, and attendance at a panel discussion sponsored by Mothers Against Drunk Driving.<br /><br />"The penalty is consistent with the plea bargain given to other drivers arrested under similar circumstances, the city attorney's office said."dr.primrosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-186030264880530222012-10-05T11:18:48.973-07:002012-10-05T11:18:48.973-07:00My take on this -- an intent to be insulting while...My take on this -- an intent to be insulting while maintaining plausible deniability.dr.primrosenoreply@blogger.com