tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post2582113859149390065..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: Prop 8 trial updateDavidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-2616871795825400762010-01-13T18:27:31.179-08:002010-01-13T18:27:31.179-08:00News today: US Supreme Court blocks televising the...News today: <b>US Supreme Court blocks televising the trial</b> . (Read story <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-na-court-cameras14-2010jan14,0,1984566.story" rel="nofollow">here</a>)<br /><br />I fear that if a same-sex marriage case comes to SCOTUS, there's your 5-4 decision denying it. <br /><br />God forbid anything <i>untoward</i> should happen to the Conservative Five in the next 3 years, but if the choice were between that, and anything <i>untoward</i> happening to anyone in an unable-to-marry same-sex couple, then...JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-82077404373347472722010-01-12T21:34:50.126-08:002010-01-12T21:34:50.126-08:00In this week's New Yorker there's a review...In this week's New Yorker there's a review of Elizabeth Gilbert's new book on getting married despite a great deal of trepidation against doing so --"Committed: A Skeptic Makes Peace with Marriage." There's a great paragraph on how marriage has been viewed across different cultures:<br /><br /><br />For contemporary political purposes, marriage is often depicted as a timeless and unchanging institution; actually, it has been enormously elastic throughout history and across cultures. In nineteenth-century China, it was perfectly acceptable for a young woman to marry a dead man, an arrangement called a “ghost marriage,” which enabled families to consolidate their wealth and power and allowed enterprising young women to pursue their ambitions without the interference of a living husband or children. (Such husbands were very popular. “It was not so easy to find an unmarried dead man to marry,” a ghost bride is quoted as saying in Janice Stockard’s “Daughters of the Canton Delta.”) Among Eskimo in northern Alaska, there was a tradition of creating co-spousal arrangements in which a quartet swapped husbands and wives. Shiites and Babylonian Jews recognized mut‘a: temporary marriages. If a man was granted a “wife for a day,” the couple could be seen in public together and even have sex. “The man and woman had no obligation toward each other once the contract was over,” Stephanie Coontz writes in “Marriage, a History.” “But if the woman bore a child as a result of the relationship, that child was legitimate and was entitled to share in the father’s inheritance.” Couples in modern revolutionary Iran can still petition mullahs for a similar marital day pass.dr.primrosenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-46359506161884678652010-01-12T18:53:03.571-08:002010-01-12T18:53:03.571-08:00IT, it's awful. I send healing hugs to you an...IT, it's awful. I send healing hugs to you and BP.<br /> <br />"...if you let gay people marry, straight people won't"?<br /><br />That doesn't make any sense. Straight people will marry if they want to marry and not marry if they choose not to.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-81828078298706139702010-01-12T15:31:16.637-08:002010-01-12T15:31:16.637-08:00I can only surmise how hurtful this is to you, IT....I can only surmise how hurtful this is to you, IT. It pains and angers me so much I can barely stand to read anything about it---so it must be infinitely worse for you and BP.<br /><br />I am trying to have faith in reason and justice. I am praying. That is all I can do now. But I wish there was more I could offer to you...<br /><br />Pax,<br />DoxyWormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.com