tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post1705332300657032730..comments2023-11-10T09:15:40.084-08:00Comments on The Friends of Jake: Dan Savage calls out Right wing "Christians" who hate the sin(ner)Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10124314924693077453noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-83679931717558638992010-10-06T14:41:00.198-07:002010-10-06T14:41:00.198-07:00Here's what I wrote on my blog:
"My good...Here's what I wrote on my blog:<br /><br />"My good Christian friends, I think he is spot on about this. I think our proper response should not be to complain about Dan Savage painting all Christians with the right wing brush. There's a much bigger and more desperate issue involved than the reputation of our faith . Our Lord can take care of Himself, with or without our help. The Christian Faith will survive even those who ask "What Would Jesus Do?" while dragging that very faith through the mud of bigotry. Those who do need our help (as well as Our Lord's) most desperately are those very people who Dan Savage rightly describes as seeing nothing but despair in their futures. It is our responsibility as Christians to those kids, to the rest of the world, and to ourselves to dispel all the obsolete and bad science used in bad faith to demonize and pathologize sexual minorities, to dispel the really toxic heresies that proclaim parts of God's Creation to be exceptions to His declaration that His Creation (ALL of it) is Good, and to dispel the monomaniacal and downright psychotic obsession of Christian leaders and institutions with matters of sex and control. It is up to us to present to the world an alternative vision of church as a community grounded in love of God through love for each other and the world instead of as spiritual buttress for the prevailing hierarchy and spiritual enforcer of social convention.<br /><br />Perhaps it's time to think about replacing the image of Christ the King (kingship is obsolete, even as a metaphor) with Christ the Liberator. Deus Optimus Maximus et Christus Liberator."Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-9736344141744936002010-10-06T14:29:35.514-07:002010-10-06T14:29:35.514-07:00I commented about this very issue over on my blog....I commented about this very issue over on my blog.<br /><br />I don't think complaining to Dan Savage is very productive. There are larger and more desperate issues at stake than our feelings as Christians. The Christian faith will survive being dragged through the mud, not by its detractors, but by Christians who use it to justify their bigotry. The Faith has survived worse. Our Lord can take care of Himself, with or without our help.<br />Right now, I think He shares Dan Savage's urgent concern for gay young who see nothing but despair in their futures.<br /><br />I think we can best serve our selves as Christians by being the very thing we claim we are, a community based on love of God, for each other, and of the world, in hope of the resurrection. We should continue to live out and proclaim the message that ALL the Creation is good, including sexual minorities. We should live out our witness that Christ stands, not in front trying to stop those struggling for their freedom and dignity, but behind them always pushing them forward.<br /><br />Those outside the church door frequently remember what those inside forget, that "you shall know the tree by the fruit that it bears."Counterlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345956180434795401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-52624520551143744842010-10-05T21:20:17.978-07:002010-10-05T21:20:17.978-07:00Well, I'm still learning.
I have no problem w...Well, I'm still learning.<br /><br />I have no problem when anyone says "%^&#$&!!! Christians!"<br /><br />I have difficulty, when someone says "%^&#$&!!! Magic Sky Fairy Jesus!" (<i>because</i> they're pissed at homophobic Christians).<br /><br />But I guess I'm supposed to get over it.<br /><br />I wish they---well, <i>EVERYBODY</i>, 'phobes and Dan Savage alike---knew the Jesus I know. The One who LOVES everyone.<br /><br />{Sigh}JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8238382886103256219.post-42587400838136347322010-10-05T18:39:35.266-07:002010-10-05T18:39:35.266-07:00I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the ...I'll keep saying it until I'm blue in the face:<br /><br />People who use that odious phrase do so in order to be able to say the word "hate" and still feel clean. No Christian has any business using it.<br /><br />As I said over at Dan's--I don't expect LGBTs to trust me just because I say so. I try to walk my talk--but until the media stop trying to "balance" people like me (or scientists) with some asshole like Tony Perkins or the NOM folks, I can shout until I'm blue in the face and never make a difference.<br /><br />Some viewpoints simply do not need to be given credence by the media--particularly when the nutjobs espousing them are trying to impose their religious values through secular law. I will continue to call them down--but I could use a little help from the secular media too.<br /><br />DoxyWormwood's Doxyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10882756844690851674noreply@blogger.com